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I am looking for Antonio Manual Rivas born about 1725 in San Pedro de Gallo, Zacatecas.
I can't find any film for the town at that time period. I have been looking for information on the town to see
when it was first settled . He might have been baptized in a near by town but can't make up my mind
as what other town seems most likely.

Antonio moved to Galeana, Nuevo Leon and married about 1753 to Maria Guadalupe Pinto y Galvez.
The Pinto family was from Charcas, san Luis Potisi.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

--
Esther A. Herold

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> Alice,
>
> I will call you cousin for I have Onate ancestry also. My Onate heritage dates
> back to the colonization of Zacatecas and Oaxaca of New Mexico.
>
> You found the marriage of Agustina Santelices and Luis Onate. That is a good
> begining. I am willing to help you research the Onates. So far I have been
> lucky in my own research. I am kind of curious if you go back to Juan or
> Cristobal Onate as I do. I will need the date of Agustina and Luis' marriage and
> the place and the church. I also need to know where and when the other children
> of the marriage were born. Did you read the documents in their entriety?
>
> Let me know what you think.
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from Leticia Leon :
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>
>
> > thanks for your answer.
> >
> > I

Is this your same Antonio de Riva(s)?

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utlac/00083/00083p1-P.html

It appears that San Pedro de Gallo was part of the bishphoric of
Durango during this time. It looks to have been more a predisio than
an actual town in the early 1700s... It appears to have been part of
the partido de Nazas, previously known as Cinco Senores. The town did
not have a church until 1787, so there would be no parrish in which to
record his baptism in the town in 1721.

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/durango/mpios/10030a.h…

1742, 28 de marzo:
Don Juan Baptista de Leizaola: Testamiento sobre preguntas que
serán expresadas a José de Bargas y a Nicolás de Manjares; Capitán don
Antonio de la Riva, San Antonio del Río de las Nazas, Arroyo de
Naicha, capitán don Sebastián Núñez, don Juan Andrés de Aldas, Aguage,
Llanos de la Yerbabuena, Santiaquillo, Santo Domingo. Juan Baptista de
Leizaola a Francisco José de Leizaola a Ygnacio del Horno. (San Pedro
del Galló).
1742, 8 de abril:
Don Antonio de la Riva: Auto; San Antonio de Cuencame, José de
Bargas, Nicolás de Minjares, San Pedro del Gallo, don Juan Baptista de
Leizaola. Antonio de la Riva a Juan Antonio de Castro y a Augustín de
Zepeda. (Hacienda de San Antonio del Río de las Nazas).
José de Bargas: Declaración de José de Vargas; don Juan Baptista
de Leizaola, Tierras de Neicha, capitán don Sebastián Núñez, don Juan
Andrés de Aldas, Yerbabuena. Antonio de la Riva a Juan Antonio de
Castro a Augustín de Zepeda. (Hacienda de San Antonio de Río de las
Nazas).
Antonio de la Riva: Auto; Santo Domingo Casco, Arroyo de Neicha,
Santiaquillo, Encinillas, El Potrero de Corral. Juan Antonio de Castro
a Augustín de Zepeda.
Nicolás de Minjares: Declaración de Nicolás de Minjares; capitán
don Juan Baptista de Leizaola, Bernardo de Gamdia?, capitán don
Sebastián Núñez, Tierras de Neicha, San Pedro del Gallo, don Juan
Andrés de Aldas, Arroyo de Naicha, Santiaquillo, Casco, Santo Domingo.
Antonio de la Riva a Juan Antonio de Castro a Augustín de Zepeda.
(Hacienda de S. Antonio de Nazas).
1742, 11 de abril:
Don Antonio de la Riva: Certificación del teniente; San Pedro del
Gallo, don Juan Andrés de Aldas, Cerro de Yerbabuena, Arroyo de
Neicha, Santiaquillo, Encinillas, Casco, Santo Domingo, don Juan
Baptista de Leizaola, Antonio de la Riva a Juan Antonio de Castro a
Augustín de Zepeda. (Hacienda de San Antonio de Río de las Nazas).

Even Cinco Senores/Nazas has no baptisms before 1726. There are death
records for earlier years which means that the archives were destroyed
or perhaps (if you are lucky) not available for filming when LDS went
to film. It is worth investigating with the parrish in Nazas.

Title Registros parroquiales, 1694-1962
Authors Iglesia Católica. Santa Ana (Nazas, Durango) (Main Author)

Bautismos vol. 1 - 14 1726-1833 FHL INTL Film 1563158
Matrimonios vol. 20 - 25 1898-1933 Defunciones vol. s/n 1694-1755
(Cuencamé) vol. 1 - 12 1760-1887 FHL INTL Film 1563297

Arturo,

Thanks so very much, I have been blocked on this line for so long. I am not sure that Antonio was a captain but that seems logical if he was living in a presidio. I did see a rank attached to him in Galeana. The information I had was from his marriage record. His parents were not listed on the marriage record. This was his wife's second marriage and this record listed the parents of his wife's first husband's parents instead. It also listed his wife's parents.

Where did you find the attached record? I have too look for protocols in Galeana, Nuevo Leon which is were he died. He started having children in 1755 so I guestimated he was born about 1720 or so. His wife was born in 1728 in Charcas, SLP. They married in Galeana.

Thanks again.

--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from "Arturo Ramos" : --------------

> Is this your same Antonio de Riva(s)?
>
> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utlac/00083/00083p1-P.html
>
> It appears that San Pedro de Gallo was part of the bishphoric of
> Durango during this time. It looks to have been more a predisio than
> an actual town in the early 1700s... It appears to have been part of
> the partido de Nazas, previously known as Cinco Senores. The town did
> not have a church until 1787, so there would be no parrish in which to
> record his baptism in the town in 1721.
>
> http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/durango/mpios/10030a.h…
>
> 1742, 28 de marzo:
> Don Juan Baptista de Leizaola: Testamiento sobre
> preguntas que
> ser

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