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Vasquez in San Sebastian

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  • By AnnValdez | Fri, 2008-01-11 17:33

    I have not posted since my introduction when I joined a few months ago but since then I have ordered the film for my great-grandparent's marriage. They were married in San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco. The film is very blurry and hard to read. My Spanish is also a little rusty but I was able to make out that my great-grandmother Cenorina Vasquez, daughter of Jose Eduviguez Vasquez and (it looks like) Demetina Vazquez, was from San Sabastian. I have not been able to find anything further. No baptism files, no marriage records from her parents. I don't even know where San Sebastian is. I had read an email from this group that San Sabastian was in someone's research. i can't find that email but does that someone happen to recognize these names or know where it is? Any information that anyone has would be greatly appreciated!

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

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    Joseph de Leon

    17 years 5 months ago

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    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    I logged on to Google Earth, which has satellite locations of all Earth (which you can zoom in and see the actual towns, buildings, houses, and even cars and people) and it states that there are several San Sebastians in Mexico.

    Zacatecas, Vera Cruz, Monterey, Jalisco, Mexico City, and Baja California Sur.

    Which site do you think it is?

    Jose Carlos de Leon

    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vasquez in San Sebastian by Joseph de Leon

    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    I am thinking it is probably Jalisco. San Sebastian is the only thing it
    said on the certificate. They were married in San Diego de Alejandria,
    Jalisco. From what I can make out, her husband, Emiliano Ruvio 'originated'
    from Rancho Seco and lived in los Colonias. I don't know where Los Colonias
    is but I did find Rancho Seco, it was near San Diego de Alejandria. I have
    searched all around that area but I have not seen anything about San
    Sebastian. Thank you for the Google Earth tip. I had not ever seen that
    site.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    Rodriguez de Frias

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vasquez in San Sebastian by AnnValdez

    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    Hello all,

    There's a rancho named SAN SEBASTIAN in San Francisco del Rincon,
    Guanajuato, which is like 10 or 15 min away from San Diego de Alejandria.
    This rancho, according to INEGI has no population as of today.

    Hope this info helps.

    RICARDO RODRIGUEZ

    VALLE DE GUADALUPE, JALISCO

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    Joseph de Leon

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vasquez in San Sebastian by AnnValdez

    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    you're welcome! You can download Google Earth it for free. I often view my parent's birthland from the sky above!

    San Sebastian is beautiful! It lies SE of Huejucar a few hundred miles ....due eadt from Teocaltiche.

    Jose Carlos de Leon

    Rodriguez de Frias

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vasquez in San Sebastian by Joseph de Leon

    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    Hi Ann, here are all the past and present ranchos named San Sebastian in
    Jalisco and Guanajuato.

    It looks like the one you’re looking for could either be in San Francisco
    del Rincón, Guanajuato or Arandas, Jalisco, since they are the closesto to
    San Diego de Alejandría.

    Hope this helps.

    Entidad

    Municipio

    Localidad

    JALISCO

    Arandas

    San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    Atoyac

    San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    Concepción de Buenos Aires

    Llano de San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    Encarnación de Díaz

    San Sebastián del Álamo

    JALISCO

    Etzatlán

    San Sebastián (Ex-hacienda de San Sebastián)

    JALISCO

    Ixtlahuacán del Río

    Potrero de San Sebastián (Pot. de las Yeguas)

    JALISCO

    Mezquitic

    San Sebastián de Teponahuastlán

    JALISCO

    Poncitlán

    San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    San Cristóbal de la Barranca

    El Cerro de San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    Gómez Farías

    San Sebastián (Cab.)

    JALISCO

    San Sebastián del Oeste

    San Sebastián del Oeste (Cab.)

    JALISCO

    Tlajomulco de Zúñiga

    San Sebastián el Grande

    JALISCO

    Tlajomulco de Zúñiga

    Jardines de San Sebastián

    JALISCO

    Tlaquepaque

    San Sebastián

    GUANAJUATO

    San Miguel de Allende

    San Sebastián de Aparicio

    GUANAJUATO

    León

    Capellanía de San Sebastián

    GUANAJUATO

    San Francisco del Rincón

    San Sebastián

    GUANAJUATO

    San José Iturbide

    San Sebastián del Salitre (El Salitre)

    GUANAJUATO

    San Luis de la Paz

    San Sebastián

    R Rodríguez

    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vasquez in San Sebastian by Rodriguez de Frias

    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    Thanks for the list. Hopefully I will find something now that I have places
    to look. This group is great.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    Maureen Bejar

    17 years 5 months ago

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    San Sebastian

    Dear Ann:
    I think I have seen Rancho San Sabastion in some of the San Miguel Records. I will have a look this weekend, if I have some time. I have some Vasquez in my lines. I will take a look also on my spreadsheets to see if any of the names come up.

    Maureen Bejar

    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to San Sebastian by Maureen Bejar

    San Sebastian

    Thank you for taking the time. I am so excited about the responses I have
    gotten. Also, the following might help if you have any of the names in your
    spreadsheet: Cenorina Vasquez and Emiliano Ruvio were married in 1884. She
    was 20 at the time--So born about 1864. I didn't get any hits on siblings
    but I probably have her mother's first name wrong. I know it starts with
    Dem.... Thanks again.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    conrique

    17 years 5 months ago

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    San Diego de Alejandria

    Saludos Ann,

    By your posting, I presume that the marriage record of your g-grandparents is from the Registros Parroquiales of La Inmaculada Concepcion in San Diego de Alejandria, and you may be interested in reading a small article about the history and characteristics of this Municipality (San Diego de Alejandria) via the following link:
    http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/jalisco/mpios/14072a.h…

    Also, I believe, because of its proximity, that the San Sebastian you seek is most likely one in the Municipality of Arandas.

    I hope that these items may prove of interest, and even productive, to you.

    Efrain Conrique
    San Diego, California

    PS: Rancho Seco also is/was located in the Municipio of Arandas. Efrain

    Maureen Bejar

    17 years 5 months ago

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    Vasquez Rancho San Sabastian

    Dear Ann:
    I looked in my family file and sadly my Vasquez's are from Rancho Balverde, San Miguel, but since some of the lines I have not linked yet (so I did not enter the grandparents) I will have to look at by hand. I will do that in the coming week. I did a check on all your names and nothing came up. I did find another daughter of Emiliano Rubio and Cenorina in familysearch.org. It is Maria Teodora Rubio, baptized 4/3/1885 Santa Maria de Guadalupe, Arandas Jalisco, batch I036514. For some reason it did not give me the years and the film number on that one. I do not know why. Anyway, Cenorina is spelled Senorina in that document, so look for alternate spellings. Also on the Vasquez name, look also for Vazques, Vasquez and Basques. I will check later in the week on the San Miguel records, some of the baptisms were in the same time period of 1860 to 1895. My Matio Alviso maried a Casimira Vasques, but I did not record her parents. I will look into that also and let you know.

    Candy

    17 years 5 months ago

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    Vasquez in San Sebastian

    Ann, I too am searching for records in San Sebastian. When I first joined this site ten months ago (or longer) I gave a brief synopsis of what my friend's family had been told about the birth place of Domingo Plazola (born abt 1896), his brother, Luis, perhaps a sister who married a Vasquez, and the mother Jacinta Gonzales. I found the birth record of Luis in San Sebastian del Orest films. San Sebastian del Oreste is a former mining town up near the northern border of Jalisco and up in the mountains east of the Sea of Cortez. I am helping the son of Domingo. Although he speaks and reads Spanish, he is in his mid 70s, has poor eyesight, and doesn't have a clue about of record keeping in Jalisco. Since I speak and read Spanish based on a word by word ability, I am frustrated by my lack of skills in researching. I can't grasp the difference between ranchos, villages, and record depositories. You've given me reason to go back and try again. Thanks.

    Candis Carbone
    Tacoma, WA
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: AnnValdez
    To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:33 PM
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Vasquez in San Sebastian

    I have not posted since my introduction when I joined a few months ago but since then I have ordered the film for my great-grandparent's marriage. They were married in San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco. The film is very blurry and hard to read. My Spanish is also a little rusty but I was able to make out that my great-grandmother Cenorina Vasquez, daughter of Jose Eduviguez Vasquez and (it looks like) Demetina Vazquez, was from San Sabastian. I have not been able to find anything further. No baptism files, no marriage records from her parents. I don't even know where San Sebastian is. I had read an email from this group that San Sabastian was in someone's research. i can't find that email but does that someone happen to recognize these names or know where it is? Any information that anyone has would be greatly appreciated!

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    Maureen Bejar

    17 years 5 months ago

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    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    Dear Ann:
    Sadly none of the San Miguel records I have are from San Sabastian. Good luck on your search though. It is so great to make new discoveries and to learn about the culture and lives of our ancestors. You will find some records very legible and soon become used to the old style writing and the Spanish. I started with very little Spanish at all. Many of the records are set up much the same, so after a while you will start learning the words. Freetranslation.com is a big help too, but don't forget to use the accents on the letters. Remember some words in Catholic documents are not Spanish at all, but Latin as we learned from earlier posts.

    Maureen Bejar

    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by Maureen Bejar

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    Thank you for the tips. I will keep searching for a Vasquez connection but
    in the meantime I have ordered some more films from the Rubio line. Perhaps
    this will give me some practice reading the records. Thanks for your help.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by AnnValdez

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    Ann: Which Rubio family are you from there are Rubio de Monrroy or Rubio-GOnzales de la Florida?

    I descend from Rubio de Monnroy. Diego Rubio and Luisa de Monrroy came from Valladolid, SPain thats how the compound name was created. I also descend from the other Rubio's. I think that both Rubios are related since they both came from Valladolid.
    -Daniel Mendez del Camino

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    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by mendezdetorres

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    I don't know which family I am from...yet! So far I have gone back to Josef
    Bernardo Rubio married to Ana Marmolejo sometime in the late 1770's. They
    are my gggg-grandparents. I have not found any record of their marriage
    only their children's baptisms in San Diego de Alejandria, Jalisco. Below I
    have listed my ancestors that I have found but some I am still waiting on
    films to verify.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Jose Vargas Rubio
    Lucas Rubio m Josefa Vargas
    Emiliano Rubio m Senorina Vasquez
    Jose Domingo Rubio m Maria Clemencia Padilla
    Gregorio Rubio m Maria Sebastiana
    Marques
    Josef Bernardo Rubio m Ana
    Marmolejo

    I seem to be stuck here. Any advice you can give is appreciated.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    -----Original Message-----
    From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    [mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
    Mendez
    Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:05 PM
    To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Vazquez in San Sabastian

    Ann: Which Rubio family are you from there are Rubio de Monrroy or
    Rubio-GOnzales de la Florida?

    I descend from Rubio de Monnroy. Diego Rubio and Luisa de Monrroy came from
    Valladolid, SPain thats how the compound name was created. I also descend
    from the other Rubio's. I think that both Rubios are related since they both
    came from Valladolid.
    -Daniel Mendez del Camino

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    "fix".
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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by AnnValdez

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    I found this? I might say Carmén's might have their grandparents? But I think you've seen it already.I found a total of 11 records on their children. Do you have all of these? -Dániel

    1. MARIA DEL CARMEN RUVIO MARMOLEJO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 25 MAY 1805 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    2. Maria Guadalupe Ruvio - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 21 SEP 1790 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    3. MARIA JOSEFA RUBIO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Birth: Ordena

    4. MA. NEPOMUSENA RUBIO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Marriage: 13 MAR 1828 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    5. MARIA VENTURA RUBIO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Birth: Laguna De Piedra
    14. Maria Margarita de Jesus Rubio - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 20 JUN 1792 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico
    14. Maria de Jezus Rubio - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 07 FEB 1780 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    1. Maria Josefa Onofre Rubio - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 16 JUN 1794 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    2. Maria Cyrilda Rubio - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 16 JUL 1788 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico

    3. GREGORIO RUBIO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Male Birth: Rancho Seco

    4. TOMAS RUBIO - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Male Marriage: 02 MAY 1838 La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco, Mexico
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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by AnnValdez

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    I found this Bernardo but it might be a stretch. We cant say these is him, we need proof.
    I also found out you Ana Marmalejo, ANa is her nickname. On one of the childrens it's says Josef Bernardo and Manuela Marmalejo. From what I saww on the Marmalejos, they came from Lagos. Theres alot of them in the 1600-1700's period. -Dániel

    IGI Individual Record
    FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

    Mexico

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    JPH. BERNARDINO RUBIO BALCASAR
    Pedigree

    Male

    Event(s):

    Birth:

    Christening:

    29 MAY 1768
    San Francisco, Tala, Jalisco, Mexico

    Death:

    Burial:

    Parents:

    Father:
    JUAN RUBIO
    Family

    Mother:
    IGNACIA BALCASAR

    Messages:

    Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

    Source Information:

    Batch No.:
    Dates:
    Source Call No.:
    Type:
    Printout Call No.:
    Type:

    C603774
    1760 - 1771
    0233298
    Film
    NONE

    Sheet:
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    AnnValdez

    17 years 5 months ago

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    In reply to Vazquez in San Sabastian by mendezdetorres

    Vazquez in San Sabastian

    I did not have Maria del Carmen. I will order that film. Also, I had not
    looked in Lagos. I hope it pans out. Thanks again.

    Ann Rubio Valdez
    Sugar Land, Texas

    -----Original Message-----
    From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    [mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
    Mendez
    Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:55 PM
    To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Vazquez in San Sabastian

    I found this Bernardo but it might be a stretch. We cant say these is him,
    we need proof.
    I also found out you Ana Marmalejo, ANa is her nickname. On one of the
    childrens it's says Josef Bernardo and Manuela Marmalejo. From what I saww
    on the Marmalejos, they came from Lagos. Theres alot of them in the
    1600-1700's period. -Dániel

    IGI Individual Record
    FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

    Mexico

    Search Results | Download

    JPH. BERNARDINO RUBIO BALCASAR
    Pedigree

    Male

    Event(s):

    Birth:

    Christening:

    29 MAY 1768
    San Francisco, Tala, Jalisco, Mexico

    Death:

    Burial:

    Parents:

    Father:
    JUAN RUBIO
    Family

    Mother:
    IGNACIA BALCASAR

    Messages:

    Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
    The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or
    christening date.

    Source Information:

    Batch No.:
    Dates:
    Source Call No.:
    Type:
    Printout Call No.:
    Type:

    C603774
    1760 - 1771
    0233298
    Film
    NONE

    Sheet:
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    Juan Carlos Correa

    16 years 9 months ago

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    I was born in San Diego de Alejandria, Jalisco

    Some of the records for marriages and bauptisms were done in La Union de San Antonio Jalisco in the mid 1800's, so you might want to check there.

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